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		<title>By: Hiring Your Level of &#8220;Weird&#8221; &#124; Small Hands, Big Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiring Your Level of &#8220;Weird&#8221; &#124; Small Hands, Big Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hiring senior management, Hsieh&#8217;s viewpoint is similar to Taylor&#8217;s but opposing to Rich&#8217;s of Corn On the Job. Hsieh says:&#8220;It’s not just a single day with them and you make a [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by gracekboyle: Check out Rich&#039;s guest post (@cornonthejob) weighing in with his professional viewpoint on &quot;hiring over a meal:&quot; http://bit.ly/5nOVF0...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by gracekboyle: Check out Rich&#8217;s guest post (@cornonthejob) weighing in with his professional viewpoint on &#8220;hiring over a meal:&#8221; <a href="http://bit.ly/5nOVF0.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5nOVF0..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich DeMatteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich DeMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are in Philly you let me know, and I&#039;ll have the pasta ready!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with how you say that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &quot;meal&quot; interview, but to be honest with you, I only like to interview 3 candidates.  If screening is done really well, and phone screens are how they should be, then interviewing 3 candidates should be enough (especially these days).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, what bothers me maybe most about the meal is that it&#039;s more time that the candidate needs to plan.  Great talent is found, and smart companies move fast on top talent.  My old organization used to do 2 or 3 interviews, and I cut it down to 1.  We stopped losing talent to competitors and we closed deals quicker.  It was amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People can be great at interviewing when the process has holes in it.  In behavioral interviewing it is really hard for someone to be &quot;good&quot; at interviewing.  Behavioral interviewing is almost a science, and is not an easy task for an interviewee.  They have no idea which skill sets will be interviewed, and what exact behavioral questions will be asked.  The amount of probing in a behavioral interviewing needs to be to an extend where even the best liars in the world will suffer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, I do get your points, and so does everyone NOT in HR who hears these arguments from my peers and I.  While I see the value in the meal, I feel it is not only a risk to the company, but can also slow up the process resulting in lost talent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are in Philly you let me know, and I&#39;ll have the pasta ready!</p>
<p>I agree with how you say that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &#8220;meal&#8221; interview, but to be honest with you, I only like to interview 3 candidates.  If screening is done really well, and phone screens are how they should be, then interviewing 3 candidates should be enough (especially these days).  </p>
<p>Also, what bothers me maybe most about the meal is that it&#39;s more time that the candidate needs to plan.  Great talent is found, and smart companies move fast on top talent.  My old organization used to do 2 or 3 interviews, and I cut it down to 1.  We stopped losing talent to competitors and we closed deals quicker.  It was amazing.</p>
<p>People can be great at interviewing when the process has holes in it.  In behavioral interviewing it is really hard for someone to be &#8220;good&#8221; at interviewing.  Behavioral interviewing is almost a science, and is not an easy task for an interviewee.  They have no idea which skill sets will be interviewed, and what exact behavioral questions will be asked.  The amount of probing in a behavioral interviewing needs to be to an extend where even the best liars in the world will suffer.</p>
<p>But, I do get your points, and so does everyone NOT in HR who hears these arguments from my peers and I.  While I see the value in the meal, I feel it is not only a risk to the company, but can also slow up the process resulting in lost talent.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich DeMatteo</title>
		<link>http://smallhandsbigideas.com/career/guest-post-the-300000-meal/comment-page-1/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich DeMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are in Philly you let me know, and I&#039;ll have the pasta ready!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with how you say that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &quot;meal&quot; interview, but to be honest with you, I only like to interview 3 candidates.  If screening is done really well, and phone screens are how they should be, then interviewing 3 candidates should be enough (especially these days).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, what bothers me maybe most about the meal is that it&#039;s more time that the candidate needs to plan.  Great talent is found, and smart companies move fast on top talent.  My old organization used to do 2 or 3 interviews, and I cut it down to 1.  We stopped losing talent to competitors and we closed deals quicker.  It was amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People can be great at interviewing when the process has holes in it.  In behavioral interviewing it is really hard for someone to be &quot;good&quot; at interviewing.  Behavioral interviewing is almost a science, and is not an easy task for an interviewee.  They have no idea which skill sets will be interviewed, and what exact behavioral questions will be asked.  The amount of probing in a behavioral interviewing needs to be to an extend where even the best liars in the world will suffer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, I do get your points, and so does everyone NOT in HR who hears these arguments from my peers and I.  While I see the value in the meal, I feel it is not only a risk to the company, but can also slow up the process resulting in lost talent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are in Philly you let me know, and I&#39;ll have the pasta ready!</p>
<p>I agree with how you say that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &#8220;meal&#8221; interview, but to be honest with you, I only like to interview 3 candidates.  If screening is done really well, and phone screens are how they should be, then interviewing 3 candidates should be enough (especially these days).  </p>
<p>Also, what bothers me maybe most about the meal is that it&#39;s more time that the candidate needs to plan.  Great talent is found, and smart companies move fast on top talent.  My old organization used to do 2 or 3 interviews, and I cut it down to 1.  We stopped losing talent to competitors and we closed deals quicker.  It was amazing.</p>
<p>People can be great at interviewing when the process has holes in it.  In behavioral interviewing it is really hard for someone to be &#8220;good&#8221; at interviewing.  Behavioral interviewing is almost a science, and is not an easy task for an interviewee.  They have no idea which skill sets will be interviewed, and what exact behavioral questions will be asked.  The amount of probing in a behavioral interviewing needs to be to an extend where even the best liars in the world will suffer.</p>
<p>But, I do get your points, and so does everyone NOT in HR who hears these arguments from my peers and I.  While I see the value in the meal, I feel it is not only a risk to the company, but can also slow up the process resulting in lost talent.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisa Doucette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisa Doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First things first.  If I am ever in the Philly area on a Sunday, I&#039;m crashing your house.  Hope that&#039;s ok.  :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Secondly, I am awed that my little analytical mind is torn on this one.  Cause really, you offer a concrete, viable and measurable way to do something.  And for that I am 100% on board. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But having sat on the hiring side of many tables I have to say that I am seriously torn on what you say.  I think that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &quot;meal&quot; interview.  And of that only certain (pre-determined) positions should be invited to the meal interview.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason is this.  People can be REALLY GOOD at interviewing.  I&#039;ve met them.  They&#039;re like professional interviewers.  It&#039;s part of the reason I leave them to sit with my secretary for about 15 minutes to see how they react there.  How they treat the &quot;seemingly meaningless&quot; people in the company.  Because that really DOES say a lot.  When no one is looking, how do you behave?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a world where no one will (can) give you an honest reference/job evaluation it&#039;s a nice counter option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first.  If I am ever in the Philly area on a Sunday, I&#39;m crashing your house.  Hope that&#39;s ok.  <img src='http://smallhandsbigideas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Secondly, I am awed that my little analytical mind is torn on this one.  Cause really, you offer a concrete, viable and measurable way to do something.  And for that I am 100% on board. </p>
<p>But having sat on the hiring side of many tables I have to say that I am seriously torn on what you say.  I think that only the top 3 of potential candidates should make it to a &#8220;meal&#8221; interview.  And of that only certain (pre-determined) positions should be invited to the meal interview.  </p>
<p>The reason is this.  People can be REALLY GOOD at interviewing.  I&#39;ve met them.  They&#39;re like professional interviewers.  It&#39;s part of the reason I leave them to sit with my secretary for about 15 minutes to see how they react there.  How they treat the &#8220;seemingly meaningless&#8221; people in the company.  Because that really DOES say a lot.  When no one is looking, how do you behave?</p>
<p>In a world where no one will (can) give you an honest reference/job evaluation it&#39;s a nice counter option.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich DeMatteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich DeMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brent, thanks for this input.  Would love to talk to you more about RoundPegg, which I believe I&#039;ve heard of.  I&#039;m a fan of Behavioral Interviewing, but I do feel sometimes there needs to be a bit more to it to complete the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you read this - email me at CornOnTheJob AT &lt;a href=&quot;http://Gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brent, thanks for this input.  Would love to talk to you more about RoundPegg, which I believe I&#39;ve heard of.  I&#39;m a fan of Behavioral Interviewing, but I do feel sometimes there needs to be a bit more to it to complete the process.</p>
<p>If you read this &#8211; email me at CornOnTheJob AT <a href="http://Gmail.com" rel="nofollow">Gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: brentdaily</title>
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		<dc:creator>brentdaily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you both with a giant asterisk.  Interviewing is about acquiring as much data on someone as possible.  Going to dinner allows one to gather additional information in a setting that isn&#039;t possible within the work environment but it doesn&#039;t tell you much about the person IMO.  Just like in an interview (nearly) anyone can act like a reasonable human being for a couple of hours. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We too often rely on subjective measures to decide who we should hire and inevitably it comes back to bite us.  Nearly half of the people we all hire &#039;fail&#039; within 18 months.  That&#039;s not good enough.  And it&#039;s expensive.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Incorporating objective measures that are uniform across candidates help us confirm or deny our gut feel.  Shameless plug alert - At RoundPegg we&#039;ve built software that identifies which candidates look like and fit best with the people who are successful on a given work team (from a &#039;soft skills&#039; perspective - values, communication style and personality).  It&#039;s part of a solution that when combined with behavioral interviewing can lead to identifying employees who will be engaged on the job at a higher rate than those who just use their gut. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hiring is a blend of art and science.  But relying too much on either one is bound to fail more often than it succeeds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you both with a giant asterisk.  Interviewing is about acquiring as much data on someone as possible.  Going to dinner allows one to gather additional information in a setting that isn&#39;t possible within the work environment but it doesn&#39;t tell you much about the person IMO.  Just like in an interview (nearly) anyone can act like a reasonable human being for a couple of hours. </p>
<p>We too often rely on subjective measures to decide who we should hire and inevitably it comes back to bite us.  Nearly half of the people we all hire &#39;fail&#39; within 18 months.  That&#39;s not good enough.  And it&#39;s expensive.  </p>
<p>Incorporating objective measures that are uniform across candidates help us confirm or deny our gut feel.  Shameless plug alert &#8211; At RoundPegg we&#39;ve built software that identifies which candidates look like and fit best with the people who are successful on a given work team (from a &#39;soft skills&#39; perspective &#8211; values, communication style and personality).  It&#39;s part of a solution that when combined with behavioral interviewing can lead to identifying employees who will be engaged on the job at a higher rate than those who just use their gut. </p>
<p>Hiring is a blend of art and science.  But relying too much on either one is bound to fail more often than it succeeds.</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Boyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Royce You&#039;re always causing a ruckus, aren&#039;t you? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glad you joined Disqus - next, you need to add a picture so you&#039;re not all anonymous and invisible. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good article in &lt;a href=&quot;http://BusinessWeek.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BusinessWeek.com&lt;/a&gt; and thanks for adding to the conversation. Give Rich a hard time, anytime ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Royce You&#39;re always causing a ruckus, aren&#39;t you? </p>
<p>Glad you joined Disqus &#8211; next, you need to add a picture so you&#39;re not all anonymous and invisible. </p>
<p>Good article in <a href="http://BusinessWeek.com" rel="nofollow">BusinessWeek.com</a> and thanks for adding to the conversation. Give Rich a hard time, anytime <img src='http://smallhandsbigideas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rich DeMatteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich DeMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Royce - Grace and I talked before my recent post went live, I just hope she thinks I&#039;m an OK blogger.  I&#039;ve always loved her site so it was great for me to be here in a guest post.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Royce, that article sounds right up my alley!  Great find.  When you find out &#039;Why&#039; you can get to the bottom of things, for sure.  Engagement is a huge issue in HR these days.   With so many people (45%) stating they are not happy with their jobs, engagement has become an even bigger issue.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for that, and your thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Royce &#8211; Grace and I talked before my recent post went live, I just hope she thinks I&#39;m an OK blogger.  I&#39;ve always loved her site so it was great for me to be here in a guest post.  </p>
<p>Royce, that article sounds right up my alley!  Great find.  When you find out &#39;Why&#39; you can get to the bottom of things, for sure.  Engagement is a huge issue in HR these days.   With so many people (45%) stating they are not happy with their jobs, engagement has become an even bigger issue.  </p>
<p>Thanks for that, and your thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich DeMatteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich DeMatteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doniree, thanks for leaving your thoughts on this.  It is a tough issue, and it is why its not always fun being in HR.  When we take a practice away, we must provide something that can add value.  In this situation I would take away the meal, but offer a practice that I feel would bring the same result, but would absolutely ensure the company is secure legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doniree, thanks for leaving your thoughts on this.  It is a tough issue, and it is why its not always fun being in HR.  When we take a practice away, we must provide something that can add value.  In this situation I would take away the meal, but offer a practice that I feel would bring the same result, but would absolutely ensure the company is secure legally.</p>
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